Bridegrooms, Garments, Children In Marketplaces

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The Gospels What Failure, Why? The Gospel According To Matthew Introduction The Baptisms, The Temptation Of Christ, New Wine Raca, Thou Fool Children In The Marketplace, Blasphemy And Casting Out Devils One Wiser Than Solomon Logic In The Gospels Kingdoms Divided The Line Is Drawn The Line Is Crossed The Family Of God Empty The Man, The Man Won't Rest, The Rest Won't Fail The Mustard Plant, Leaven In The Meal No Wedding Garment, Whose Resurrection? Ten Virgins, Ten Talents The Gospel According To Mark Introduction Bridegroom And Fasting, Christ The Testator Demons By Demons, Candles And Bushels The Sower – Reaping And Mustard Trees Corban ‘The Gift’ – Rewards In This Life, But Not $$$ A Close Comparison To Matthew 24 The Gospel According To Luke Introduction Temptation Of Christ, Dropping The Bombshell Bridegrooms, Garments, Children In Marketplaces Who Say Ye That I Am? – Mary And Martha Opinion, Expectation, Purpose, Division Judgement Already Happened In Part Mustard Trees, Leaven, Hate What You Have The Dishonest Steward Priceless Articles Of Faith, Marriage And Resurrection Matthew 24’s Companion In Luke, - Confirmation With Mark The Gospel According To John Introduction Born Of The Spirit, Where The Wind Blows, You See? Samaritan Woman – We Know What We Worship – Contrasts The Son Is Revealed As God – and Glorified In The Father Bread From Heaven, Flesh And Blood: Consumed Whole The Identity Of The Son Of God – Appearances Not Deceptive Those That See, Sheep Hear The Shepherd’s Voice Cryptic; Any Connection With Anselm? – the Holy Trinity Was Paul Truly A Christian? Introduction The Mystery Religions In the Days Of These Kings Why Christianity Won Saul, Part Of The Problem? Were Paul Not In Christ, Why Would He Risk It All? Conclusion New Testament In Christ Introduction Doctrinal Fundamentals The Sealing – Hit The Ceiling! The Right Hand Of Power Coming On The Clouds Of Heaven You've Got It Totally Upside Down! The Dumbest Thing I Ever Heard Introduction Many Paths To God - What Utter Bullshit Blood Of Christ Man, That’s Dumb! Should Have Been More Careful Paying For Yourself There? These Three Agree In One The Head Of The Corner No Marriage In Heaven Ye Do Therefore Greatly Err Strength In Numbers, Ha! Jesus Paid The Price, (And Gave Me Credit) My God, My God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me? Shortcomings And Stumbling Blocks Introduction Gay Marriage A Stumbling-Block Trouble Dividing The Sexes Is There Freedom Of Religion? The Power Of The Cross Introduction Christ Obedient To The Cross Grace The Gift Of God Shadows And Substance Propitiation For Sins The Suffering Servant The Urim And Thummim Acts and Epistles I Introduction The Book Of Acts I The Book Of Acts II Moving On To Romans	Bridegrooms, Garments, Children In Marketplaces Ok, so I repeat myself upon the same content in Matthew and Mark's gospels, but here are the verses; -- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- Luke ch5:v30-39 Luk 5:30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? Luk 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. Luk 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Luk 5:33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink? Luk 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? Luk 5:35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved. Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better. (KJV) There are no huge differences in Luke's account of these words from Jesus. However the last verse does not appear in those other accounts. At first glance I am confused, does Jesus say here that the old covenant is better than the new covenant he brings? It would be a total contradiction of new testament teaching if it were so. Jesus must be referring to himself as the new wine in some way. How does this relate to the verses 30-32? If the righteous are so because of the Law, then they are content with old wine, whereas those sinners who need help are brought new wine by Jesus. The reference to putting new cloth on an old garment is the closest to v39. The key word I think is "desired". The new cloth takes from the old, and makes it appear worse. In like manner the old wine does not agree well with the new, not that it is superior to new wine, but that faced with a choice, a confused palette is the problem. I thank God that every time I have ever thought there was contradiction in the bible, I am shown my error. My error is to remain confused rather than to search the truth out, in favour of avoiding the idea of considering the word of God flawed. The Answer is simply that no man desires new wine straight away,.. His habits are hard to break, and the Law is what they know - they are slow to understand. Anyhoo, moving on to the children in the marketplace reference... Here are the verses; -- Click To Expand/Collapse Bible Verses -- Luke ch7:v19-35 Luk 7:19 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? Luk 7:20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? Luk 7:21 And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. Luk 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. Luk 7:23 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Luk 7:24 And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind? Luk 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings’ courts. Luk 7:26 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet. Luk 7:27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. Luk 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he. Luk 7:29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. Luk 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him. Luk 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? Luk 7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. Luk 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. Luk 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners! Luk 7:35 But wisdom is justified of all her children. (KJV) The verses clearly show that John the Baptist's ministry was extremely successful in making Jesus Christ's paths straight. Those that were baptised of John were already led to Jesus, since John baptised for the remission of sins. Those that were prepared for Jesus in this way were already repentant and instructed of John to expect and accept the ministry of Jesus Christ. Those that were not baptised were either repentant or not, but the emphasis here is on "not". The Pharisees and lawyers deliberately rejected not only John, the works of baptism and Jesus, but also blasphemed the Holy Spirit. They built tombs for the prophets though they are like to those that killed them.. Their attempts to reconcile their failures in calling sinners to repent (v32) led those Pharisees and their generation to think of it as a losing game. - They called John a demoniac and Jesus a sinner, evidence of their opinion that John and Jesus were just as sinful as those they successfully reach. That if the Pharisees etc couldn't do it then God wasn't behind His servants. - Let alone these two "nutcases". As the passage opens with "Art thou he that should come..." Jesus' reply is to state "look about, what does it look like?" Jesus is effectively saying., "Do not doubt, I (Christ) am right in front of you." Jesus qualifies John as a vessel of honour, which made the crowd feel justified in being present listening to Jesus,.. but Jesus was preceded by John to confirm Jesus' ministry by turning the Fathers to the children, to make His paths straight etc. This was not an act of flattery by Jesus to gain position, but more of a blessing to those whom repented at John's preaching now that a greater than he is here in the person of Jesus. Continue To Next Page Return To Section Start Return To Previous Page